{"id":2508,"date":"2022-08-20T21:11:23","date_gmt":"2022-08-20T20:11:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/oko.pres-24.pl\/?p=2508"},"modified":"2022-08-20T21:11:25","modified_gmt":"2022-08-20T20:11:25","slug":"prosimy-o-pomoc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/oko.pres-24.pl\/?p=2508","title":{"rendered":"Prosimy o pomoc."},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kilka dni temu zapoznali\u015bmy si\u0119 z artyku\u0142em (z Newsweeka) Pani Karoliny Rogaskiej umieszczonym na Onecie, po\u015bwi\u0119conym &#8222;upadkowi&#8221; autorki Harry Pottera. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.onet.pl\/informacje\/newsweek\/droga-jk-rowling-od-idolki-do-czarnego-charakteru-jak-niszczy-transfobia\/dj1t37b,452ad802\">https:\/\/www.onet.pl\/informacje\/newsweek\/droga-jk-rowling-od-idolki-do-czarnego-charakteru-jak-niszczy-transfobia\/dj1t37b,452ad802<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ju\u017c jaki\u015b czas temu takie tre\u015bci przeros\u0142y nasze si\u0142y i chcieliby\u015bmy po prostu odpu\u015bci\u0107&#8230; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8230;po prostu&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8230;nie rozumiemy&#8230; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8230;jak mo\u017cna tworzy\u0107 takie tre\u015bci, a zak\u0142adamy, \u017ce r\u00f3wnie\u017c w nie wierzy\u0107. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Intencje wida\u0107 ju\u017c po sposobie, w jaki autorka dobiera s\u0142owa i zwroty. Konstruuje zdania w ten spos\u00f3b, by zdusi\u0107 w zarodku potencjaln\u0105 my\u015bl u czytelnika, \u017ce mo\u017ce jednak s\u0142owa Pani Rowling maj\u0105 jaki\u015b sens.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Je\u015bli dobrze pami\u0119tamy, a opieramy si\u0119 na lekturze kt\u00f3rego\u015b z archiwalnych Newsweek\u00f3w, &#8222;afera&#8221; zacz\u0119\u0142a si\u0119 od reakcji autorki Pottera na zwrot &#8222;osoby menstruuj\u0105ce&#8221;. Zaapelowa\u0142a, by u\u017cywa\u0107 s\u0142owa &#8222;kobieta&#8221;. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hejt ruszy\u0142. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Niedawno w podobny spos\u00f3b &#8222;linczowano&#8221; Macy Gray, za stwierdzenie, i\u017c medycyna nie jest w stanie sprawi\u0107, by m\u0119\u017cczyzna sta\u0142 si\u0119 w pe\u0142ni kobiet\u0105. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Wypowied\u017a piosenkarki zdaje si\u0119 przemilcza\u0142y nasze portale. Dowiedzieli\u015bmy si\u0119 o niej z angloj\u0119zycznego zak\u0105tku internetu. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mn\u00f3stwo si\u0142 i \u015brodk\u00f3w po\u015bwi\u0119caj\u0105 \u015brodowiska zwi\u0105zane z ideologi\u0105 LGBT+  formu\u0142uj\u0105c w mediach sw\u00f3j przekaz. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Naprawd\u0119 czytamy\/s\u0142uchamy i usi\u0142ujemy zrozumie\u0107 ich spos\u00f3b rozumowania, jednak nie natrafili\u015bmy na wyja\u015bnienie zagadnienia wynikaj\u0105cego ze s\u0142\u00f3w May, kt\u00f3re by\u0142oby zgodne z przekazem g\u0142oszonym przez \u015brodowiska LGBT+. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jest spos\u00f3b by stworzy\u0107 sytuacj\u0119, w kt\u00f3rej obydwie strony sporu(?) spotka\u0142y si\u0119 na pewnej p\u0142aszczy\u017anie i by wi\u0119kszo\u015b\u0107 spo\u0142ecze\u0144stwa zawar\u0142a swoisty rozejm, skoro konserwatyzm nie pozwala jego cz\u0119\u015bci na akceptacj\u0119 &#8222;wyboru&#8221; p\u0142ci. Niestety \u015brodowiska LGBT+ (przynajmniej te medialne) wol\u0105 sta\u0107 na stanowisku prawdy objawionej. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">W artykule Pani Rogaskiej pad\u0142o stwierdzenie: <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"938\" height=\"148\" src=\"https:\/\/oko.pres-24.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/row-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2510\" srcset=\"https:\/\/oko.pres-24.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/row-1.png 938w, https:\/\/oko.pres-24.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/row-1-300x47.png 300w, https:\/\/oko.pres-24.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/row-1-768x121.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 938px) 100vw, 938px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8222;&#8230;nie tylko kobieta mo\u017ce mie\u0107 okres&#8230;&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To drugi raz, gdy spotykamy si\u0119 z takim stwierdzeniem. Pierwszy raz us\u0142yszeli\u015bmy je, tak nam si\u0119 wydaje, z ust Pani Pos\u0142anki \u017bukowskiej, autorki nag\u0142o\u015bnionej wypowiedzi, i\u017c &#8222;Biologiczny m\u0119\u017cczyzna mo\u017ce urodzi\u0107 dziecko&#8221;. Wypowied\u017a o menstruacji pad\u0142a podczas rozmowy w TVN 24 b\u0105d\u017a TOK FM i wtedy przesz\u0142a bez echa, niemniej nas mocno skonsternowa\u0142a. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nie ro\u015bcimy sobie prawa do posiadania wszelkiej wiedzy. Research kt\u00f3rego dokonali\u015bmy by\u0142 pobie\u017cny i generalnie czytamy wypowiedzi\/dyskusje\/apele \u015brodowisk mniejszo\u015bci sexualnych tylko, gdy s\u0105 one wyexponowane na portalach b\u0105d\u017a w prasie (Newsweek\/Polityka). <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Zak\u0142adamy wi\u0119c, i\u017c mo\u017cemy czego\u015b nie wiedzie\u0107 i w zwi\u0105zku z tym po prostu prosimy. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Prosimy. Je\u015bli nie w komentarzu (problemy ze spamem) to w wiadomo\u015bci mailowej (po raz trzeci) prosimy, by kto\u015b, kto zgadza si\u0119 z przytoczonymi s\u0142owami Pani Rogaskiej, wyt\u0142umaczy\u0142 nam z szacunkiem dla nauk biologicznych, jak to jest mo\u017cliwe. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nie chcieli\u015bmy tworzy\u0107 tego wpisu. Mamy w planach jeszcze jeden, ostatni zwi\u0105zany ze \u015brodowiskami LGBT+ i nie chcemy nigdy wi\u0119cej wraca\u0107 do tego tematu. Mamy swoje lata i, bazuj\u0105c na tre\u015bciach przekazywanych w mediach kt\u00f3re s\u0142uchamy\/czytamy, nie podoba si\u0119 nam kierunek w kt\u00f3rym \u015bwiat zmierza. Ludzie b\u0119d\u0105 nadal dobrzy i \u017ali, m\u0105drzy i g\u0142upi, wykorzystuj\u0105cy i wykorzystywani, jednak coraz mniej jest tych, kt\u00f3rzy chc\u0105 zrozumie\u0107 na czym polega jaki\u015b problem. Zrozumienie, a tu konieczna jest dyskusja szanuj\u0105ca rozm\u00f3wc\u0119, nawet je\u015bli nie przekona do akceptacji, to otworzy drog\u0119 do porozumienia, do kompromisu. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tu przypominamy, bo to cz\u0119sty b\u0142\u0105d, i\u017c w kompromisie obydwie strony &#8222;przegrywaj\u0105&#8221;, ust\u0119puj\u0105, jednak dzi\u0119ki niemu nie morduj\u0105 si\u0119 (bez cudzys\u0142owia). <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Co nas ostatecznie sk\u0142oni\u0142o do napisania powy\u017cszego textu? Inny numer Newsweeka. 24 z 2022 r. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Na stronie 36 jest wywiad Pani (PRZYSI\u0118GAMY!!! W TEJ CHWILI TO ZAUWA\u017bYLI\u015aMY!) Karoliny Rogaski(!!!) z Jo-Ann Owusu, kt\u00f3ry poprzedza nast\u0119puj\u0105cy wst\u0119p: <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"429\" height=\"295\" src=\"https:\/\/oko.pres-24.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/rroga.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2511\" srcset=\"https:\/\/oko.pres-24.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/rroga.png 429w, https:\/\/oko.pres-24.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/rroga-300x206.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 429px) 100vw, 429px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Wywiadu jeszcze nie przeczytali\u015bmy. Mo\u017ce zawarte w nim tre\u015bci czyni\u0105 ca\u0142y powy\u017cszy wyw\u00f3d bezsensownym. Nie wiemy jeszcze. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Powy\u017cszy fragment przypomnia\u0142 nam jednak o tek\u015bcie po\u015bwi\u0119conym J.Rowling i sk\u0142oni\u0142 do kilku refleksji. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Smutne jest to, \u017ce jaka\u015b (mniejszo\u015b\u0107\/wi\u0119kszo\u015b\u0107?) cz\u0119\u015b\u0107 pokolenia Pani Rogaski, prawdopodobnie nie jest zdolna do takich refleksji. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Inna oczywi\u015bcie sprawa, czy to dobrze czy \u017ale w og\u00f3lnym uj\u0119ciu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nowe pokolenie to nowe idee, kt\u00f3rych expansj\u0119 &#8222;starzy&#8221;, przekonani o swojej &#8222;racji&#8221;, chc\u0105 co najmniej spowolni\u0107, skoro nie da si\u0119 powstrzyma\u0107. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Prosimy wi\u0119c o odrobin\u0119 cierpliwo\u015bci. My &#8222;starzy&#8221; bli\u017cej mamy ju\u017c do ko\u0144ca ni\u017c pocz\u0105tku i gdy \u00f3w koniec nast\u0105pi, Wy &#8222;m\u0142odzi&#8221; b\u0119dziecie bez przeszk\u00f3d urz\u0105dza\u0107 \u015bwiat ca\u0142kowicie po swojemu. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">S\u0105dzimy, i\u017c prze\u017cyjecie w\u00f3wczas niejedno zdziwienie. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n<p class=\"bawpvc-ajax-counter\" data-id=\"2508\"><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kilka dni temu zapoznali\u015bmy si\u0119 z artyku\u0142em (z Newsweeka) Pani <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/oko.pres-24.pl\/?p=2508\">Czytaj dalej \u2192<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2508","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.8 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Kilka dni temu zapoznali\u015bmy si\u0119 z artyku\u0142em (z Newsweeka) Pani Karoliny Rogaskiej umieszczonym na Onecie, po\u015bwi\u0119conym &quot;upadkowi&quot; autorki Harry Pottera. https:\/\/www.onet.pl\/informacje\/newsweek\/droga-jk-rowling-od-idolki-do-czarnego-charakteru-jak-niszczy-transfobia\/dj1t37b,452ad802 Ju\u017c jaki\u015b czas temu takie tre\u015bci przeros\u0142y nasze si\u0142y i chcieliby\u015bmy po prostu odpu\u015bci\u0107... ...po prostu... ...nie rozumiemy... ...jak mo\u017cna tworzy\u0107 takie tre\u015bci, a zak\u0142adamy, \u017ce r\u00f3wnie\u017c w nie wierzy\u0107. 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